Southern Baptist In NC

November 27, 2007

Building Bridges–Dr. Nathan Finn

Filed under: Calvinism, Dr. Nathan Finn — Tim Rogers @ 3;48 pm

Southern Baptist on both sides of the Southern Baptist isle are guilty of spreading false information.  Calvinism is coming more popular among younger Southern Baptist

Common false stereotypes of Southern Baptist Calvinists

Five Myths about SB

Assumptions to guide presentation:

All SB believe the Gospel

Most mis-characterizations are based on misunderstandings or confusion

Most interested SB desire to understand Calvinism.

The best way to move the SBC forward is to accurately represent each other’s belief’s.

  • Calvinism is a threat to Evangelism

1845 the first thing that the SBC did was form two Mission Boards. The leaders at that time were Calvinists.  SB eschew any thology or practice that hinders evangelism  1993 SB papers began calling Calvinism the threat for evangelism.

1997 Western Recorder concedes that Calvinist are evangelistic.  Estep warns SB to avoid Calvinism because it will hinder our evangelism and missions.

Dr. Finn is giving numerous examples of leaders in the convention within the past years giving statements condemning Calvinism and evangelism.

SB Calvinist have consistently gone on record that evangelism is their heart.

Dr. Lemke’s methodology is skewed for two reasons.

  • Southern Baptist Calvinist are opposed to Invitation.

Invitation is an altar call.  Many non-calvinist point to this as proof that

reasons Some calvinist are uncomfortable with public invitations.

  1. public invitation evolves into practical
  2. invitation system is nothing more than pragmatism
  3. there is no such thing as a Calvinist public invitations
  4. calvinist are concerned about the method.
  • Calvinism is equivelant to Hyper-Calvinist
  1. Hyper Calvinist
  2. restrict the invitation to the elect
  3. deny the universal love of God to all people

Calvinist rejected hyper-calvinism in 1845.  Convention Calvinist reject Hyper Calvinist.

  • Calvinist deny human free will.

admitedly there are a number different ways to define free will.

  1. God saves people despite of their free will
  2. God does not save people who truly want to be saved because they are not of the elect.

No man is saved against his will.  Nor is the will taken away.  The work of the spirit of god is to work on and change the will and make individuals willing.  Effectual calling is the regeneration of the sinner, thus making the will willing.

  • Authentic Baptist are not Calvinist.

Estep argues that Baptist came from English Baptist.

William Bradley note that early 19th Century Baptist were Calvinist.

Founders ministries publicly sthat that they defend Baptist Principles.  By this they mean Calvinist Soteriology and Baptist Ecclesiology.

To build bridges Southern Baptist must make these commitments.

  1. Common commitment to being Gospel centered.
  2. We must commit to traditional Baptist Principles. Dr. Finn just commended Dr. Bart Barber in his commitment to the 5th Century Initiative.
  3. We must share a mutual commitment to labor together to fulfill the Great Commission.
  4. Share a mutual commitment to be humble, irenic, and loving.  By avoiding fighting with each other over these issues.  Remain free to hold each other’s convictions.

4 Comments

  1. Dr. Finn did a great job in the presentaton. I do have a couple of concdernes. He pulled statements from Dr. Yarnell out of context to make points. He did this on a number of occasions. Also, noticably absent in his critique of those who spoke against Calvinism was Dr. Johnny Hunt. It seems that Dr. Hunt is the one that multitudes of Calvinist point to as one that consistently calls into question election. But to my surprise nothing from Dr. Finn on Dr. Hunt.

    Essentially Dr. Finn did a wonderful job, but while Dr. Yarnell is a speaker much sought after, I am not so sure that he has spoken more and even done so to a much larger audience that Dr. Hunt.

    Comment by Tim Rogers — November 27, 2007 @ 4;14 pm

  2. Thank you Tim for the outlines of the materials. I will really enjoy pouring over this stuff… I am glad to see you are not sitting with the Weeping Churchmen of Oklahoma and Tennessee!
    Steve

    Comment by Steve — November 27, 2007 @ 4;36 pm

  3. Brother Steve,

    Brothers CB, Bob Cleveland, and Les Puryear are with me. CB and I said this morning that we could hear the Down Under calling us. Have you checked any further on this possibility?

    Blessings,
    Tim

    Comment by Tim Rogers — November 27, 2007 @ 5;43 pm

  4. MMMM what are you guys looking at doing? We are going with a FAITH conference next year.. and we hope to move into university ministry in some way. We will still have our traditional VBS in July…
    What are your thoughts…
    Of course, we are as strapped for cash as any missionfield… but we can provide accommodation, food and local transport.
    Steve

    Comment by Steve — November 27, 2007 @ 6;26 pm


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